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		<title>Comment on Are Indian Software Developers “Code Donkeys”? by gbilios</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtclusters.com/2009/02/are-indian-software-developers-code-donkeys/comment-page-1/#comment-8320</link>
		<dc:creator>gbilios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is no hope..indians only employ indians and the guy who developed a chess game at the age of 14 has a much more knowledge of software development than an indian graduate who disappears when his copy/paste code crashes the server..india is not creating any opportunities and they are not the innovation they claim to be.maybe you should have mentioned why india hasn&#039;t developed their own operating system!!! they just don&#039;t feel like it!!!

as a fact, indian software development teams are large.there are nearly 60 coders on average on a typical project..the quark debacle for example: released 2 years late and didn&#039;t deliver what was promised.  you can also add to that 40 more IT staff and their entire families working on projects..so where are the opportunities for local graduates who want to get jobs in IT..they obviously can&#039;t..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is no hope..indians only employ indians and the guy who developed a chess game at the age of 14 has a much more knowledge of software development than an indian graduate who disappears when his copy/paste code crashes the server..india is not creating any opportunities and they are not the innovation they claim to be.maybe you should have mentioned why india hasn&#8217;t developed their own operating system!!! they just don&#8217;t feel like it!!!</p>
<p>as a fact, indian software development teams are large.there are nearly 60 coders on average on a typical project..the quark debacle for example: released 2 years late and didn&#8217;t deliver what was promised.  you can also add to that 40 more IT staff and their entire families working on projects..so where are the opportunities for local graduates who want to get jobs in IT..they obviously can&#8217;t..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Indian Software Developers “Code Donkeys”? by nevermind</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtclusters.com/2009/02/are-indian-software-developers-code-donkeys/comment-page-1/#comment-8306</link>
		<dc:creator>nevermind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think i was wrong, when i said earlier that the problem was distance, and lack of context.

there&#039;s a much more fundamental problem that we have here: people are in it for the jobs.

compared to a kid who tried to write a chess program at age 14-15, because he felt like it, guys like that are, ummm, you know.

seriously, if you have a large number of not so great guys working on something, you incurr a significant overhead. the final product can never be as good. p.g. has something to say about keeping the team small, and full of good people, etc.

so is there hope? i would like to believe so, as the indian economy opens up, and creates opportunity for people to pursue what they love, you&#039;ll have much nicer program-writing-guys. guys who&#039;ll be nice to their programs and care about elegance and robustness and whatnot.

as always, when people enjoy what they&#039;re doing, the output is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think i was wrong, when i said earlier that the problem was distance, and lack of context.</p>
<p>there&#8217;s a much more fundamental problem that we have here: people are in it for the jobs.</p>
<p>compared to a kid who tried to write a chess program at age 14-15, because he felt like it, guys like that are, ummm, you know.</p>
<p>seriously, if you have a large number of not so great guys working on something, you incurr a significant overhead. the final product can never be as good. p.g. has something to say about keeping the team small, and full of good people, etc.</p>
<p>so is there hope? i would like to believe so, as the indian economy opens up, and creates opportunity for people to pursue what they love, you&#8217;ll have much nicer program-writing-guys. guys who&#8217;ll be nice to their programs and care about elegance and robustness and whatnot.</p>
<p>as always, when people enjoy what they&#8217;re doing, the output is great.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Difference Between Indian and American Programmers by indian programmers</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtclusters.com/2009/10/a-difference-between-indian-and-american-programmers/comment-page-1/#comment-8163</link>
		<dc:creator>indian programmers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indian programmers are more efficient and less expensive, and there&#039;s a tremendous talent pool in India. My personal experience there is no lack of good programmers in India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indian programmers are more efficient and less expensive, and there&#8217;s a tremendous talent pool in India. My personal experience there is no lack of good programmers in India.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Handle Extraordinarily Productive Employees by The Case For Better Management &#124; Thought Clusters</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtclusters.com/2009/05/how-to-handle-extraordinarily-productive-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-8159</link>
		<dc:creator>The Case For Better Management &#124; Thought Clusters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] go, but if you don&#8217;t have a choice (in the short term), then one way to handle them is to divert them into tasks that require heavy lifting in research and development. They are now isolated from the rest of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] go, but if you don&#8217;t have a choice (in the short term), then one way to handle them is to divert them into tasks that require heavy lifting in research and development. They are now isolated from the rest of the [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Silverlight and Microsoft by Valene Morain</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtclusters.com/2007/05/silverlight-and-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-8101</link>
		<dc:creator>Valene Morain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I found this blog post while searching for help with fixing Microsoft Silverlight. I&#039;ve recently switched browsers from Opera to Firefox 3.2. Just recently I seem to have a problem with loading websites that use Microsoft Silverlight. Everytime I browse website that requires Microsoft Silverlight, my browser crashes and I get a &quot;npctrl.dll&quot; error. I can&#039;t seem to find out how to fix it. Any help getting Microsoft Silverlight to function is greatly appreciated! Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I found this blog post while searching for help with fixing Microsoft Silverlight. I&#8217;ve recently switched browsers from Opera to Firefox 3.2. Just recently I seem to have a problem with loading websites that use Microsoft Silverlight. Everytime I browse website that requires Microsoft Silverlight, my browser crashes and I get a &#8220;npctrl.dll&#8221; error. I can&#8217;t seem to find out how to fix it. Any help getting Microsoft Silverlight to function is greatly appreciated! Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dale Carnegie&#8217;s Death by ANON</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtclusters.com/2007/01/dale-carnegies-death/comment-page-1/#comment-7679</link>
		<dc:creator>ANON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You talking about enjoy your life, it&#039;s a great book so is Carnegie&#039;s book, but he took examples of people and the other author took deen this makes the difference.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You talking about enjoy your life, it&#8217;s a great book so is Carnegie&#8217;s book, but he took examples of people and the other author took deen this makes the difference.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Martyr Complex by Debbie</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtclusters.com/2007/06/the-martyr-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-7549</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not agree more!  I have been dating a man with a martyr complex for the last 7 months.  He can be very convincing with his arguments.  My mind gets so twisted up I can&#039;t even think of why or what I was doing anymore.  He makes sense sometimes and so you get sucked in to his manipulation.  My sister warned me that he&#039;s one step away from being an abuser...I think she is right.  He constantly &quot;comments&quot; on his children&#039;s behaviors.  And he says EVERYONE manipulates with behaviors.  I call them reactions to the bullshit they&#039;re being fed.  He has old fashioned values that I love so I keep getting sucked back in.  The biggest problem is everything seems fine and then POOF-out of no where, there&#039;s drama!  I&#039;m so stressed out all the time, I can barely breathe.  I think we all bear responsibility for the choices we maked...so I&#039;m OUT!!!!!  Not going to be a martyr like him.  Pretty soon you think you&#039;re the only ones doing anything right and everyone else is self-centered!  Ugh!  what an awful way to live!  The world is not always perfect, but there are some extremely awesome people in it!!!!  Rich, poor, fat, thin...makes no difference.  Martyrs need to get some help!!!!  I&#039;m just sayin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree more!  I have been dating a man with a martyr complex for the last 7 months.  He can be very convincing with his arguments.  My mind gets so twisted up I can&#8217;t even think of why or what I was doing anymore.  He makes sense sometimes and so you get sucked in to his manipulation.  My sister warned me that he&#8217;s one step away from being an abuser&#8230;I think she is right.  He constantly &#8220;comments&#8221; on his children&#8217;s behaviors.  And he says EVERYONE manipulates with behaviors.  I call them reactions to the bullshit they&#8217;re being fed.  He has old fashioned values that I love so I keep getting sucked back in.  The biggest problem is everything seems fine and then POOF-out of no where, there&#8217;s drama!  I&#8217;m so stressed out all the time, I can barely breathe.  I think we all bear responsibility for the choices we maked&#8230;so I&#8217;m OUT!!!!!  Not going to be a martyr like him.  Pretty soon you think you&#8217;re the only ones doing anything right and everyone else is self-centered!  Ugh!  what an awful way to live!  The world is not always perfect, but there are some extremely awesome people in it!!!!  Rich, poor, fat, thin&#8230;makes no difference.  Martyrs need to get some help!!!!  I&#8217;m just sayin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are Indian Software Developers “Code Donkeys”? by Rama venkatesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rama venkatesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree a David J. M. Karlsen, but I do want to make one point clear, Most of the developers in India are working on Outsourced Projects which are short of time (*most of the time), Lack of structure at initial stages and at very low cost, As the projects are of low cost Organizations are tending towards hire a low cost resource (mostly freshers just out of colleage gate.) to make Benefits.... I am really sorry to say we should get better about it a little more. We can certainly get better in the context of Writing better code, It is not just having a great programmers but the way he is proactively encouraged and given leisure.... My personal experience there is no lack of good programmers in India, I can bet you will find a Bunch in every group they are Innovative &amp; Enthusiastic, very creative..... The only this we need to encourage them.....Pay them properly.. to my personal exp. I heared a word from many of my top management &quot;Just Do It How ever it is&quot; Even when we strive for the complete Quality.... This sense should be avoided &quot; Don&#039;t strive for the immediate gains &quot; I strictly believe &quot;a steep raise will have steep fall&quot; trust me guys we in India have lots of innovation we are certainly not &quot;code donkeys&quot; But So called because we are forced to work in that way..........This process will only start when the education system gets changed.... thank you
Rama venkatesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree a David J. M. Karlsen, but I do want to make one point clear, Most of the developers in India are working on Outsourced Projects which are short of time (*most of the time), Lack of structure at initial stages and at very low cost, As the projects are of low cost Organizations are tending towards hire a low cost resource (mostly freshers just out of colleage gate.) to make Benefits&#8230;. I am really sorry to say we should get better about it a little more. We can certainly get better in the context of Writing better code, It is not just having a great programmers but the way he is proactively encouraged and given leisure&#8230;. My personal experience there is no lack of good programmers in India, I can bet you will find a Bunch in every group they are Innovative &amp; Enthusiastic, very creative&#8230;.. The only this we need to encourage them&#8230;..Pay them properly.. to my personal exp. I heared a word from many of my top management &#8220;Just Do It How ever it is&#8221; Even when we strive for the complete Quality&#8230;. This sense should be avoided &#8221; Don&#8217;t strive for the immediate gains &#8221; I strictly believe &#8220;a steep raise will have steep fall&#8221; trust me guys we in India have lots of innovation we are certainly not &#8220;code donkeys&#8221; But So called because we are forced to work in that way&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.This process will only start when the education system gets changed&#8230;. thank you<br />
Rama venkatesh</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counterproductive Hiring Practices by Hire programmer</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtclusters.com/2009/12/counterproductive-hiring-practices/comment-page-1/#comment-7252</link>
		<dc:creator>Hire programmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hire a skilled programmer requires great effort. instead of that one week in actual work idea.company should prepare some cases which they have to face in the industry and ask them to solve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hire a skilled programmer requires great effort. instead of that one week in actual work idea.company should prepare some cases which they have to face in the industry and ask them to solve it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dale Carnegie&#8217;s Death by anthony mohammed robbin</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtclusters.com/2007/01/dale-carnegies-death/comment-page-1/#comment-7225</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony mohammed robbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know, Dale Carnegie ever wanted to commit suicide when there is an economic crisis in America. But then he realized and canceled intentions. Finally, some time after the incident, he even set up a personality training institutions which are still popular today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, Dale Carnegie ever wanted to commit suicide when there is an economic crisis in America. But then he realized and canceled intentions. Finally, some time after the incident, he even set up a personality training institutions which are still popular today.</p>
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